Home > Energy, Government, Liberalism > I know that you believe that you understood what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant?

I know that you believe that you understood what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant?

Political Cartoons by Michael Ramirez

  1. 20 Mar 2012 at 9:27 PM

    Of course you realize domestic oil production is at it’s highest level since Clinton? That drilling on Public Lands has risen 13% under Obama? That much of the theoretical reserves are not economically recoverable until gas passes, $10, 15, +++ a gallon?

    And as someone born and raised in one of the areas where the new technology of “fracking” is being used- and friends and family are seeing groundwater contamination and other serious issues. This region has been through enough- with the coal industry- cancer clusters among the workers and resident, open pit mines, air and water pollution, rivers and streams with fish unsafe to eat…if there are any left, acid remain destroying the crops, the paint n the cars and houses, destroying the tombstones and monuments of our forefathers.

    Yes- it’s very easy to demand cheap gas while standing at the pump- quite another when it is your family and friends subsidizing it. We’ve been through this before- and the decade, two, or five of good paying jobs is not worth the long term costs.

    • 21 Mar 2012 at 6:34 AM

      First, I would point out that your response rises to only a DH3 level of disagreement. You’ve stated the standard liberal talking points with no evidence to back it up or citation of your sources. I do note you have a post on your own blog that has some references, but they are all from liberal MSM sources, so I must suspect their veracity given their lack of bias.

      Yes, the issue is, indeed, more complex than than just “drill, baby, drill,” and a multiplicity of factors need to be taken into account in forming policy. Nevertheless, the law of supply and demand works when not regulated by governmental red tape (or subsidized by public funds), and a greater supply of non-OPEC oil cannot be a bad thing.

  2. 21 Mar 2012 at 3:21 PM

    Really?? A dh3 arguement as compared to someone who posts a comic to make their point?

    And so please tell me what sources you consider acceptable? Fox news? The heritage foundation? WND ?

    So what, exactly, are the sources for your claims and arguements?

    • 22 Mar 2012 at 7:07 AM

      You assume I’m trying to make a point? It’s labeled “humor” and it is the nature of such editorial comics to be very one dimensional (although sometimes, that one dimension is more than enough). It’s not an argument in the first place. This is not a researched essay/post on Obama’s energy policies, nor do I presently have the time to create such. Please consider the context. (In contrast, your first comment does appear to be an effort to bring more than simple commentary to the table. Generally, the comments sections of blogs are not good places to hold debates due to the limited space provided.)

      However, your question on acceptable sources is a good one. Yes, I would consider Fox News and the Heritage Foundation to be more reliable, but I will still fact check their work as well. In my limited experience with them, WND tends to the more sensational tabloid presentation and I don’t read it at all. No source should be accepted uncritically, or at all times. That is one of the underlying premises of this blog.

  3. CW
    22 Mar 2012 at 8:28 AM

    Drugs: >>“…drilling on Public Lands has risen 13% under Obama…”

    Well then, are you upset with Obama? Because the tone of your comment sounds as if you would prefer that we focused on other sources of energy rather than increase drilling.

    On the other hand, if you accept the widely reported assertion that it takes something like 5 years or so to bring new drilling online, then you would have to concede that it was the Bush administration – not Obama – that deserves the credit for the increase in drilling.

    So which is it? Is Obama responsible for the increase in drilling on public lands in what would seem to be a contradiction to his own agenda on energy (and yours, apparently)? Or is he shamelessly bragging about and taking credit for something that he had nothing to do with?

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